LEAF Co-Founder Claude Garcia speaks with BBC World Service about how Board Games can help fixing inaction in environmental issues: People fail to take action because they lack experience what climate change really means. Games provide this experience. And can make them change their behaviour, Claude explains in the interview in Egypt during the COP27, where he facilitated a game session using the CoPalCam Game about palm oil to showcase how games can help people advancing in complex real-world problems.